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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

madly in love <strong>with</strong> an old beat up chair, <strong>with</strong> a pencil, <strong>with</strong> your<br />

toenail, <strong>with</strong> the sound of the rain on the windowpane, and even<br />

<strong>with</strong> a person that you've been married to for 35 years for whom<br />

there’s little mystery left. It's in the shining of love, and the giving<br />

of love, that we are filled <strong>with</strong> love, because the source is <strong>with</strong>in us.<br />

When the source is <strong>with</strong>in us, then the only way you can really get<br />

filled <strong>with</strong> love is to give it. Anytime you try to get love, it has the<br />

opposite effect of making you feel more lacking. [Laughs]<br />

WIZARD: That's a rocky road.<br />

NIRMALA: It is.<br />

TRIP: I've tried a few times.<br />

NIRMALA: Trying to fill yourself <strong>with</strong> love from the outside is like<br />

trying to fill up a very leaky bucket <strong>with</strong> a hose. You can stand<br />

there for hours, and the bucket never fills up.<br />

WIZARD: Boy, I've been there a lot, my God, you wouldn't<br />

believe.<br />

NIRMALA: It sucks trying to fill yourself up <strong>with</strong> love from the<br />

outside. It’s a fundamental structure that what we are at the core<br />

is this emptiness, and so anything you put in there is going to<br />

dissolve. It's like the leaky bucket, you put love in there, and it<br />

dissolves back into emptiness. But when something comes out of<br />

it, it moves from emptiness into form, and so when this emptiness<br />

moves as love, when you give your attention, and your acceptance,<br />

and your curiosity to something else, then this emptiness moves<br />

out of you into the form and the quality of love, including all of the<br />

joy, and pleasure, and satisfaction that brings. So it's the flow<br />

from emptiness outward that fills us. <strong>The</strong> inward flow from the<br />

outside is a movement from form back into emptiness, and so it<br />

never fills us up. You can't ever fill up something that is as<br />

profoundly empty as the emptiness inside of us.<br />

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