Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
NIRMALA: Sure. It would be hard to live in this culture, in this
time, without being infected by that romantic ideal. And so like
most people I was a glorious failure at ever finding her. [Laughs]
WIZARD: Well count me in on that one. But when I found it, I
found it, or it found me.
NIRMALA: Yes. When we look for a perfect love in the usual
places that we look, which is in another person, well, you never
find it there. But the perfect love, the perfect lover which is this
Truth, this presence that fills you, you can find that. But it's in the
last place we ever think to look, it's in the place where it seems that
we lack it. First of all, the empty place that feels lacking is the
source of the desire. We only desire something when we have a
feeling that we lack it. And so right now it's hard to desire
shoulders, it doesn't make sense, you've already got them. But you
can desire love if you have a feeling of a lack of love, a feeling, an
emptiness inside, a sense that it's somehow missing. So the
emptiness is the source of the desire and yet paradoxically the
place that we find can find real love is also in that same empty
space within.
WIZARD: So seeking love is like a doubt in disguise.
NIRMALA: In a sense it’s like seeking shoulders, or seeking
something that's already here. We are seeking love, and love is
already here, only very well disguised as the lack of love.
TRIP: I'm wondering, do you also feel the light of awareness has
the capacity to transform the uninspiring into the inspiring? For
example, over time one might come to view one's lover as boring
or unsatisfying, but if you shine the light of awareness on that
lover, that can bring back the magic, no?
NIRMALA: The love, or the inspiration, the juice, the joy, the
pleasure, the satisfaction, is what's shining out of you. And so if
you really understand the nature of love, that love is this thing that
flows from within you outward, then you could actually be totally
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