Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
TRIP: I love the way you help people to feel good about junk that
would normally bother somebody. You've got a beautiful way of
turning that on its head, and all throughout your website in your
writings it's a wonderful talent that you have.
NIRMALA: One way I do that is pointing to this capacity to
discriminate how true things are, but to also see that all there is, is
Truth. Everything that exists is a part of reality. The only question
is how true, how big a part of reality is it? And so even something
that makes you very, very contracted, and gives you a very limited
experience of reality is still a limited experience of reality. So it's
still true, it's still good in a sense, and it’s still okay. All of our
beliefs, all of our fears, all of our hopes, they all have a little bit of
Truth in them, sometimes a very little bit. My favorite example of
something that's true but not very true is a lottery ticket. Because
if you buy a lottery ticket, it's actually true that you could win,
unfortunately it's not very true. [Laughs]
TRIP: But I think that's a (I don't want to use the word clever,
because clever is really a derogatory term) but it's a very clever
way of looking at things because you've taken the duality out of it,
and you've basically applied a nondual graduated way of looking at
everything, everything is true to some degree.
NIRMALA: Nonduality or oneness is actually true of even the
most seemingly clear and opposite dualities. If you look at the
duality of light and dark, it turns out that there's really only one
thing, there's only light. There really isn't some other thing called
darkness. You can't go to the hardware store and buy a flashdark
and point it at things to make them disappear. There isn't some
energy called darkness you can shine on things. Dark is just the
word we use to describe when there's little or almost no light, but
the one thing that exists in that duality is light, just to varying
degrees.
TRIP: I love that, a flashdark. [Laughs] Did you come up with
that, or did you get that from somewhere else? That's a killer,
man; Flashdark.
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