Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
they're looking for someone to give them, to them, give them the
realization. And as Ramana said, all you really can do is be with
someone and point them back to themselves. And to ultimately
allow those chains to just fall off through repetition. And so I'm
sure, yeah, I can see where that could occur.
WIZARD: In deep Satsang several times we've been digging in on
that one and I'd ask him was Ramana Maharshi an ordinary
human being and he would say, yes. But it was most difficult
when he was out in a more worldly circumstance to embrace that
confession.
TRIP: Well, we've met a lot of folks through our radio show, and
through life, and I want to comment that I think that you are very
self-effacing, which is a wonderful quality in a teacher, and not all
teachers are as prone as you are to redirect the attention of the
student back onto themselves. And I think that's a wonderful
quality that you have, I think that makes you a very authentic
teacher. And I also noticed, yes, you have a center there, and you
do charge people to come and get instruction, but I think your
rates are very reasonable. I see that someone can consult with you
on the phone for like $60 an hour, which is an amazingly
reasonable price to consult with you for an hour on the phone to
work through any spiritual obstructions. So good job [Laughs].
You're running a clean ship of state over there.
NICK GANCITANO: We have toyed with the idea of not charging
anything. When we went to India and of course we've had people
here who've come and say, how come you're charging, so and so
doesn't charge anything. And the reason why we're charging is for
the very reason why you're asking why we are charging. And if
somebody has a resistance to letting go of their attachment to
money, then they're really not going to make any progress in terms
of letting go their resistance to it. And so in this regard we found
something that would just be comfortable, something that most
everyone would be able to handle, and at the same time they're
going to have to face the fact that there still maybe are some
attachments to money, or lack of understanding as to exactly what
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