Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
bought in Costa Rica, we bought an 82-acre property that
overlooked the ocean with many waterfalls, and we were going to
actually build a very large Atma-Vichara Ashram there, but that
was not to happen. It turned out that the intention of the divine
was rather that people were able to let go of their attachment to
me, the teacher that had in many instances been deified, and
rather than seen as just being a signpost, someone to point out
certain things. But in instances when that occurs it's necessary for
those attachments to be stripped away.
WIZARD: Deification is a real bear [Laughter], it doesn’t help
anybody.
TRIP: Well, aren't you clean, because so many people don't take
the trouble to strip those identifications.
WIZARD: You've got to have Toto in there. Toto is very divine.
TRIP: Hey, I've gone through all of your teachings and it's 100%
clean, but I found one tiny little thing here that I want to challenge
you on, all right? And I know that this is going to result in a nonchallenge
because I'm sure there's nothing here. But in one place
in answering a question one of your, what do you call them,
students asked, you talked about material things not being God,
because they are limited. I was just wondering is it not all God, I
mean whether it's limited or not?
NICK GANCITANO: Well again in essence everything is God, but
depending on the person that the answer is being given to, in other
words, depending on who you're addressing with that question,
you have to address the student where they are. And so when a
student is trying to justify not turning their mind inward, because
they say, well if I give attention toward acquiring things, isn't that
the same as the self-inquiry? You see, when really it's
externalizing. And that would be, you could equate that to being
somewhere inside of a circle and saying, wouldn't it be equal to
turning inward and finding the center of the circle, wouldn't that
be the same as just trying to find a point on the line that creates
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