Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
Maharshi, there was really nothing that pulled on the attention
like that, like the sense of bliss, or the sense of wholeness or
completion with that. So even during the stabilization period that
followed for several years, there was still nothing that really pulled
hard, like the burnt rope so to speak. And so this was pretty much
my experience with that. I feel like it's important for someone to
come upon this themselves conceptually, someone can say that,
but until someone has a glimpse, there's really nothing to entice
them to continue to turn the mind inward.
WIZARD: Amen.
NICK GANCITANO: Not that there's a real sense that I'm turning
the mind inward because in a sense it just starts to turn inward
more because the mind is now seeking that state again.
WIZARD: Nick, you're talking about being established, becoming
established in that, how were you mostly affirmed in that?
NICK GANCITANO: Affirmed, did you say?
WIZARD: Yes. I mean, once the grace happens, then there's the
struggle between the mortal and immortal paradigms, and
somehow the universe begins to affirm the immortal paradigm.
And they're all different, everybody has a different set of
affirmations that seem to surface, and I find them remarkable
stories.
NICK GANCITANO: I guess you would say the most significant
point being was that being able to know that you're all that there
is, and at the same time realizing that you're also apart. In other
words, to not identify with a sense of me, and to see that there is
still some sense of individuated witnessing consciousness that was
occurring. In other words, there appears to be an individual point
in awareness that perceives consciousness and the so-called
physical reality, and yet it doesn't seem solid. And yet everything
seems to be upside down and backwards, because what used to
seem as though it was empty and devoid of anything, suddenly
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