Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
MUZ MURRAY: This spiritual center is the center of
consciousness, I should say consciousness is coming through the
spiritual heart center which is just off center of the heart, more on
the right side, and this is where consciousness arises first thing in
the morning and shoots up and activates the brain. It is not the
brain which is thinking, the brain is only organizing like a jukebox,
thought processes. But the consciousness is actually happening in
the spiritual heart center, and that is where one needs to fixate
ones consciousness instead of being in the head all the time.
WIZARD: Yes.
MUZ MURRAY: And that was the easiest way I found to get
people to be in that place, because when you're falling asleep in a
chair, what happens your head nods and goes down, and because
the life force of consciousness has descended back into the heart
center, it shoots up again upon awakening. But if you can try and
grab it in that place at the moment of waking up, and keep it there,
you find a great difference in the balance of your life if you get up
from that inner sun space, and walk from that space, talk from
that space, and relate to other people from that space, rather than
from the head, it makes a tremendous difference in your
equilibrium, spiritually.
WIZARD: I've noticed that Mantra can go on quietly in the Heart
and…
MUZ MURRAY: It does, it resonates in the cells, and it resonates
in the Heart center.
WIZARD: And you can listen at the same time, whereas if you're
thinking in the head it's hard to hear, it's hard to listen because
you're formulating thoughts. But when the Mantra is in the heart
it doesn't interfere with the facility of listening.
MUZ MURRAY: Exactly. This is why Mantra should be
concentrated in the Heart center not just in the voice, not in the
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