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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

because this is what I call fleeting samadhi, it's not something that<br />

is so far from everybody's capacity. Once you recognize what it is<br />

Now you can begin to immerse yourself in it and don't allow the<br />

interruptions by all this mental movement.<br />

TRIP: <strong>The</strong>se students that you have, you call them your spiritual<br />

heroes, I really liked that, what did you mean by that?<br />

MUZ MURRAY: That most people need to join religion, a club, a<br />

sect, anything to give them the feeling that they are belonging to<br />

something or other, but through mystical consciousness goes it<br />

alone, they don't belong to anything. <strong>The</strong>se are the spiritual<br />

heroes that are open to every kind of possible spiritual teaching or<br />

experience <strong>with</strong>out needing to be a Buddhist or a Zennist, or a<br />

Christian, or a Muslim or whatever; these are the spiritual heroes<br />

that go it alone.<br />

WIZARD: So you're saying it's not a group sport.<br />

MUZ MURRAY: No. Even those Christian monks who<br />

transcended the religious canon were ostracized and put down<br />

because they had gone beyond what was acceptable. And these are<br />

the people who the church denounces, and you can be sure if the<br />

church denounces someone, they are very interesting people to<br />

look into.<br />

TRIP: And then on the other side of your teaching equation there<br />

is you, and you say, "I practice tuning in to what the guru version,<br />

this universal teaching environment known as "God" wants me to<br />

do. I look for the signs and listen <strong>with</strong> the heart, let go and let God<br />

as they say, and then roll along <strong>with</strong> the unfolding of the plan.<br />

When we can attune to that, everything flows, there's nothing else<br />

to do but learn to surrender to the process".<br />

WIZARD: Amen.<br />

TRIP: Damn, that's good.<br />

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