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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

persists to constantly search and move in order to keep it this<br />

vessel, this body alive in this planet. But where the problem<br />

begins is when it takes back for itself credit for that which is<br />

witnessing this conversation, and very furtively in a split second it<br />

takes it back and really it is that. And in so doing it shrinks the<br />

limitless, dimensionless, witnessing experience, silent and<br />

beautiful experience, into this busy mind, and a narrow mind,<br />

limits it.<br />

WIZARD: Because the mind can never know.<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: That's right.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> mind is not the proper tool.<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: That's what I find, that people have the<br />

hardest time <strong>with</strong> is in just realizing that the mind, or the little me,<br />

is like a dog chasing its own tail, and they are locked in into a<br />

closed circuit. And as I put that question, so if you know this for<br />

sure, if you truly understand this statement right here, what do<br />

you do? What can you do? What is there to be done? <strong>The</strong> answer<br />

is nothing. [Laughing] <strong>The</strong>re's nothing to be done. It just didn't<br />

work, you exhaust yourself, and you must just sit. When a dog<br />

keeps running after its tail, eventually it just sits because it has<br />

exhausted itself. And that's the image I like to give because it<br />

really feels that way, it's exhausting to keep searching for one's<br />

self.<br />

WIZARD: So the mind exhausts its remedies?<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: Yes, and that's how we find its limits.<br />

TRIP: You said that in Hebrew the word for that sitting I guess in<br />

exhaustion and surrendering to the "spiritual world" is called<br />

Shabbat, right? And you said that every religion has a word for<br />

that, I was wondering is there a word in Christianity for sitting<br />

surrendered?<br />

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