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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
or even something you see yourself and then there it is; it just
happens.
TRIP: Yes, but here's what I don't get, prior to walking through
that room if you had shown me a picture of Ramana Maharshi, or
you'd hand me a book, or something like that, and I hadn't been in
a particular state of ripe that I'd been, I would have just dismissed
it, and it wouldn't have been something attractive to me. Like for
example, being what looked like an aesthetic who walked around
in what looked like a diaper, and who had what looked like no fun,
and who was celibate, and on and on and on, who ate a very bland
vegetarian diet, and had no possessions, and lived in a little room,
whatever, that did not look to me… if you could have told me that
there could have been anything splendid about that existence I
would have said, no freaking way, and I have no interest in any of
it whatsoever, okay.
But people that come to you, they're already clued into something,
they already recognize that there's this tremendous potential or
pot of gold, or wonderful thing that might be called enlightenment,
in some way that they could transform themselves, or their
experience of life whatever, and they're there. And they've come to
you, they're already turned on to it, they get that there's this
possibility, and they're not stupid. And you sit there, and you give
them this perfect clear information, and yet over and over again
they insist on speaking to you as a separate person, or whatever.
They're not willing to run the experiment. I mean, is it all about a
willingness to run the experiment of not being a separate person,
or not? Does it get down to that maybe? Because in the end you
have to run that experiment right?
ALBERT NAHMANI: Yes, it's about breaking the silence and the
fear of being in the present. It's the mind constantly moving,
which is what it likes to do anyway, that's its purpose is to be
constantly searching. I mean, the mind is not bad; I like to
emphasize that to anyone who would listen. I prefer not to make a
demon of the mind, I think the mind is a wonderful thing, it has
done wonderful things, and very unfortunate things too. But it
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