Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
WIZARD: But all fall back into the same sea.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. And they are ultimately only the
ocean, that's all they ever were. We could call one wave Bob, and
another wave Frank, but they're just the ocean.
WIZARD: From ripple to tsunami.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes.
TRIP: One thing that occurred to me reading your book, and then
in reflection on all the other books that I've read, and you two
might comment on this, is that spiritual teachers or wisdom
keepers speak eloquently and at great length on the nature of this
present moment, on the nature of awareness, on the nature of
being, all that. I mean, Rupert Spira has written an entire book on
like dissecting this present moment of Now, right? And they also
speak very confidently about what awareness is absent like our
human perception of it, for example. But one thing that I don't
hear anybody talking about, which is like really a massive topic, is
what is the mechanism by which, and I know there's no answer to
this, but what's the mechanism by which all of this stuff is
mysteriously making its appearance? The spiritual teachers just
gloss over that, things make their appearance, well how the hell
did that happen?
MORGAN CARAWAY: Well, it is physics, they say consciousness
is the thing that makes it happen, and where there's consciousness
form appears.
WIZARD: Knowing you don't know is Wisdom.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right.
WIZARD: Knowing that stuff, somebody put a post about crop
circles on our page, and says, "How does this fit in?", or something
about avant-garde sages. A sage puts a capital “M” on the
Mystery, and trusts it, and abides in the Now, and there's a quality
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