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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

you call them the shortest pointers in the world, which are the<br />

most succinct word concepts that point at ultimate reality. You<br />

didn't use silence in there. Now you're a smart boy, I know you've<br />

thought about it, how come not silence or peace, because are the<br />

two words the <strong>Wizard</strong> over here uses basically more than any to<br />

point. But you didn't use silence or peace, is there a reason for<br />

that?<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Well, it's just words, it's all just words. I<br />

wouldn't say anything I said is any better than anybody else's way<br />

of expressing it. And the Truth is I think about that book, and to<br />

me it's like I didn't even write it. It's like it wrote itself. I can talk<br />

about all the ideas in it, but it's just the ideas came up and I put<br />

them down on paper, and you could use all kinds of different<br />

words, probably other people would have chosen a whole different<br />

list of them. And it really doesn't matter; I think that's the main<br />

point. <strong>The</strong> pointers are only good as pointers, but if we think the<br />

pointers are what they're pointing at, and then we're missing the<br />

point. But, yes, I don't know. To me silence and peace, these seem<br />

like qualities. As we know life can be very exciting and loud.<br />

We've been near the beach for a few days here, and the ocean is so<br />

restless, it's just always in motion. But there's something about<br />

the noise of it that's so soothing. It's like a strange dichotomy; it's<br />

both things at the same time. And that's the way life is I guess, on<br />

the surface it can be very crazy and active, but I guess the core of<br />

it, the heart is always at peace, like John was saying.<br />

WIZARD: Yes, the depth of the ocean is peaceful.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Right, the ripples on the surface and the<br />

waves don't hurt the depth, or they don't disturb the depth.<br />

WIZARD: And there are many, many waves and forms at the<br />

edge, and no two are alike.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Each one totally unique.<br />

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