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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: Every action is perfect, which dissolves judgment.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Right. Yes. I'm remembering having<br />

debates <strong>with</strong> people about free will versus predetermination, and<br />

it would be very heated debates, people feel very strongly about<br />

those concepts.<br />

WIZARD: But it's the “I am the body” notion, the bifurcating<br />

mind, that thinks it has free will, but it only thinks it has free will<br />

and something that is separate from a separate entity. No<br />

separation, there would be no…<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: <strong>The</strong>n it goes out the window.<br />

WIZARD: It goes out the window, yes.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. I'm sure you all are Nisargadatta<br />

fans, huh?<br />

TRIP: Yes.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Well, he had a funny thing, he said, "Ask<br />

me any question you want but just don't ask it from the idea I am<br />

the body, or I am the mind". And then once you throw those ideas<br />

aside, there really aren't any questions.<br />

WIZARD: That's right.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: He was funny; I think you all probably saw<br />

on your Facebook page someone posted where he said, "Okay, who<br />

has understood what I'm saying?" And X amount of members of<br />

the group that was <strong>with</strong> him raised their hands, and he said, "You<br />

can leave and never come back". And then he said, "And the rest<br />

of you who haven't understood, you can also leave and never come<br />

back". [Laughter]<br />

TRIP: A quick little thing, point, and then a question for both of<br />

you, or whatever. One is that you have a page in your book where<br />

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