Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
talk about ideas, do this, but we talk about ideas as if they're real.
But the ideas are always at best a conceptual roadmap of the
terrain. But the Truth is what we're talking about the ideas just
can't apply to it, they can't stick to it, and they can't limit it. You
can't limit the limitless with an idea, with words. Because what
you end up holding is just the limited, the concept.
WIZARD: Right, all form, which is always within that, this Now.
Now is greater.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right, the concepts arise within present
reality. But there can be a mystification with the ideas, and
mistaking them for reality. But all there is... is that awareness,
appearing as every little grain of sand, and every leaf, and every
person, and everything. So whether it's identified or not, it's not a
personal choice, and it really doesn't matter. It's not that one
person decides to awaken and another doesn't decide to awaken.
It's just God at play, that's the way I see it.
WIZARD: The movie doesn't change the screen.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right, just like Ramana Maharshi used to
talk about the movie and the screen, and that the screen is still
there with or without the movie.
WIZARD: The screen is real.
MORGAN CARAWAY: The screen is real.
WIZARD: The Now is real. The Now is the screen within which
the movie plays out. The Now remains, the movie keeps changing.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right, always in motion.
WIZARD: And leaves the Now unscathed.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Untouched always.
WIZARD: Always.
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