Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. I would say the seeking is sort of
optional. Some go through that experience of trying to find the
Truth. I was a seeker for probably decades. And there was that
hunger to know the Truth, so you're always looking for that
experience. You're always looking for that whatever you picture it
to be.
WIZARD: But that's the mantra of doubt.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right and the Truth is it never comes
through any of that. It's really once those ideas are put aside of
what it all is, and we look at what is present right Now in this
moment, in the absence of ideas what's present.
WIZARD: When the seeking is exhausted; when the remedies are
exhausted.
TRIP: But when you're having that moment where you're looking
at reality as it really is, and you "get it", the bifurcating mind
ceases to bifurcate for a period of time, and you're able to directly
experience spacious awareness as who you are. That's a "get it"
experience, and if it doesn't happen where the bifurcating mind
stops bifurcating, I don't think anybody out there is going to have
the interest or the passion to sort of fly in the face of the
overwhelming evidence that they are in fact a separate person,
that life is a bitch, and you're got to fight for everything you get.
But they're not going to get the route of surrender if they haven't
had that taste, do you agree or not?
WIZARD: They had it when they were born.
TRIP: Well they lost it though.
WIZARD: They were taught a language that was bifurcating by
nature.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right. Well the thing we were taught is
that these ideas is apparent reality. Have you ever noticed how we
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