Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
be afraid that there's death coming like a railroad car that's going
to hit them? Is there anyone in that category, I'm wondering, do
you know anybody in that category?
MORGAN CARAWAY: That hasn't had a "awakening" experience,
is that what you're saying?
TRIP: Yes, who is not a seeker?
MORGAN CARAWAY: So you're saying someone who never was a
seeker, but they just for whatever reason, the idea of separateness
fell away, is that what you're saying?
TRIP: Yes. No, I'm saying is there anyone…
MORGAN CARAWAY: Tony Parsons used to talk about it, John,
you may know some cases too, but he would talk about people who
just had this experience. Who was it, is it John Adams, one of the
students of Ramana Maharshi?
WIZARD: Robert Adams.
MORGAN CARAWAY: He was taking a math test in class as a
child, and his consciousness expanded to the infinite. He went to
Ramana to try to straighten it out after it happened. I guess that is
that experience. But he wasn't a seeker. And really Ramana
wasn't a seeker, so many people say you have to have a guru before
you can realise the Truth.
TRIP: I'm not saying no seekers; almost nobody that actually gets
it was ever a seeker.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Interesting, interesting.
WIZARD: In seeking, seeking is suffering, and there's a lot of
carrot stick quackery out there that exploits seeking, but seeking is
not spiritual life. Being affirmed in what you are is spiritual life.
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