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WIZARD: Yes.<br />

<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: A benefit of getting up there in years [Laughs], I’m skipping<br />

around, but okay. I'm going to ask this question and maybe… I<br />

don't know why I ask these kinds of questions but they come up<br />

for me. Why is it do you suppose than when you spend an hour<br />

<strong>with</strong> someone, and I see you lead these group discussions, and I'm<br />

watching the videos, and I'm looking at the questions these folks<br />

are asking you. Why is it that you spend an hour <strong>with</strong> someone<br />

inquiring into them the point that they are not a separate person,<br />

but rather consciousness pretending to be a separate person?<br />

<strong>The</strong>y will then ask you a question like, “is consciousness playing a<br />

game <strong>with</strong> us?” To ask a question like that after having received a<br />

thorough explanation of why there is no us to be played <strong>with</strong>, I<br />

mean what does that say about… is that consciousness itself<br />

enjoying keeping the game going, or does that speak to like the<br />

human mind and its inability to grasp? What is that?<br />

Because I'm just astounded by the gorgeous, gorgeous information<br />

that a guy like you is able to share <strong>with</strong> these folks in these group<br />

settings, and after you've downloaded a month’s worth of it, they'll<br />

come back and they'll ask again, they'll ask a question which shows<br />

obviously that in the structure of the question they totally bought<br />

into the idea themselves as a separate person, even though you've<br />

been hammering on them for a month about that. What does that<br />

say?<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: Well it says that on the tree some apples are<br />

riper than others.<br />

WIZARD: That's good.<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: Trip, yourself, I've read a little bit on your<br />

wonderful website that you yourself it was unbeknown to you, but<br />

you were already quite ripe when you walked through John's<br />

bedroom and you had a glance of I think Ramana Maharshi, if I'm<br />

correct. So you see when one is ripe one doesn’t need much. It<br />

may be something somebody says, or something somebody wrote,<br />

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