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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

there is only this moment, and like John always says, the Now,<br />

there is the Now. So that's very easy, isn’t it? Do you think that<br />

that's clear for everyone, that there is no past or future?<br />

TRIP: I think it's pretty easy to get that one personally.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: I mean space seems a little more difficult.<br />

WIZARD: Space is illusion. Space or consciousness, what we<br />

refer to as consciousness, is an illusion. And consciousness is…<br />

I'm a lucid dreamer, and my lucid dreams are just as real, if not<br />

more real, than this waking state. But it creates space, it creates<br />

time, it creates everything. But yet when it segways into a waking<br />

state, and moving from one word balloon so to speak of<br />

consciousness into another word balloon of consciousness. And<br />

all of that is happening in a stillness that is Now, it is pure<br />

seamless sentient awareness, and the only sentience is that Now<br />

that is formless, and the sentience reflects off the images to give it<br />

apparent life.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Right, to me it's the light of awareness<br />

moving <strong>with</strong>in itself. And all space really is, it seems confounding,<br />

like God, I'm standing here right now in the dunes near the beach,<br />

and I'm looking and in the distance it looks like there's a walkway,<br />

and there's buildings, and there's everything else. But really all of<br />

those things are just an interpretation by thought of this light<br />

that's appearing.<br />

WIZARD: It's the bifurcating mind that creates space.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Right. <strong>The</strong> only thing we can really speak<br />

about, wouldn't you agree, John, is here and Now?<br />

WIZARD: That is correct.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: That's the only thing we can really<br />

authoritatively speak about.<br />

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