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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
meant. There’s some of those Cliques in the nonduality world
that, oh, you just need to be completely unattached to anything,
but it's all God, so why not feel bad, when something bad happens.
You know what I mean?
WIZARD: Stephen Covey has this thing he calls the circle of
concern, and the circle of influence. And when attention is in the
circle of concern, that's in the circle where none of our activities
can make any significant difference. And then we have our circle
of influence that for as we take care of the here and now, which is
in our sphere of influence, then that grows and the circle of
concern shrinks. But when we put our attention in the circle of
concern, the circle of influence becomes smaller, and smaller, and
smaller.
MORGAN CARAWAY: In a way you're just saying, you can either
worry about something and put all this thought energy, and
conceptualize about it, or you can do something about the things
you can do something about.
WIZARD: Take care of the here and Now.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes, right. It's always of course the here
and Now. I always love talking about it, and like in the book. I
remember years ago I read a Ramesh Balsekar, I think it was The
Ultimate Understanding, and it was a collection of a lot of his
ideas. And he was talking about what are we going towards? Oh,
he was talking about time and space, and he was saying they're
illusions. And it was to me an interesting idea, I was like God,
time and space are illusions, but I'm like that doesn't seem to be
my experience. At the time I was like, time seems very real, and
space too.
So it was a very confounding idea when I first read it. I was like
that just doesn't hold up to reason. But then John and other
people, John Wheeler, who I was reading at the time, he pointed
out no matter if we're thinking about the past or the future, it
always happens Now. So in all reality there is no past or future,
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