Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes, I know, it's scary what the future
holds, as we're going on. We've been in a very lucky time period, I
think, this is talking about just modern life, but it's like we have
power like no other country in the planet, or no other society has
had it. We've been spoiled, and I think that time will come to an
end. I hope we can use the remaining resources to get ourselves in
a sustainable position, but we'll see.
TRIP: So these are difficult times and it brings up another
question I have for you, and this isn't a question to try to pin you
down, but really to help me out here, because I'm not resolved
about this, okay. You say, "Nothing in this book is meant to imply
that you shouldn't care if your family gets run over by a
steamroller, because you're so detached. It just means that any
psychological suffering that is experienced is based on a
misconception that one is a separate person apart from life", okay.
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right.
TRIP: All right, now I get that, but I looked up caring in the
dictionary, and it says, "Displaying kindness and concern for
others", okay. Then I looked up concern, which says, "anxiety, and
worry". So on the one hand you're saying, of course be anxious if
your family gets run over by a steamroller, right, but recognize the
source. What good is recognizing the source if it's still okay to be
anxious? I mean, really, deep down?
MORGAN CARAWAY: I just mean, even if somebody's self-idea is
different than it used to be, or gone, or whatever, say that's no
longer believed in, there can still be emotions, crying, there can
still be everything. Like, for example, my mother, Peggy, she has
Parkinson's disease, and she's doing much better at the moment.
But I was visiting with her a few months ago and she was ravaged
by the disease, and she was over medicated, she was on too many
meds. And even though I wrote everything I wrote in that book, it
was like I still cried my eyes out all the time. And I didn't feel like
that was a denial, I didn't feel like feeling it's a denial of
nonduality; it's just another thing that appears. So that's what I
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