Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
could have taken one of many perspectives, one of the perspectives
you could have taken in the writing of your book would have been
you could have assumed your oneness in the perspective of the
writer of the book, right? You could have instead have been
writing for apparent other people who might gain some wisdom
from the reading of your book, you could have assumed there are
no other people, and simply written that book as a conversation
with yourself, right? But you didn't…
MORGAN CARAWAY: Right. Obviously, and I guess from the
ultimate standpoint every expression is that, it's whatever you
want to call it, but it's God speaking to itself, it is the divine
speaking to itself. So it doesn't matter if we say me and you, or I
and I, or whatever you call it, it's still that divine speaking to itself.
And the book, for me, was written for seekers, it's specifically
written to people who are seeking to get out of that sense of
isolation and separation. The seeker can go on forever, seeking
can go on forever, and there's always this idea, oh, there's this big
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, or around the next corner I'll
get the piece of knowledge I need, or I'll get whatever it is, that's
assumed that's going to bring happiness and liberation. But for
me it's just seeing that… people who speak clearly on it just point
out what's already present, what's already here. And we find that
everything we need, everything there is, is already right here, once
the ideas are put aside. But it seems like our main problem is
mistaking those ideas for reality.
We have a mental construct, of what's real, what's Truth, and we
hold onto that, and we might make little modifications as we go,
little adjustments to it. But that's still a construct, no matter how
clear it is. The map is not the territory. That's part of the blessed
disillusionment too, like when you're lucky enough to speak to
someone who is clear on it, for me it was John Wheeler who was
very helpful to me.
TRIP: Right, so John was clear for you, and you must have spent
some significant time in relationship with him, or still are in
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