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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. You know the Truth is we live<br />

comfortably; we have plenty of power for what we need. <strong>The</strong> thing<br />

in sustainability is for every dollar you spend on efficiency, you<br />

save $5 that you would spend on a solar system, or whatever<br />

power you're using. So you just find efficient gadgets.<br />

TRIP: Cool, now let's move onto your spiritual life here. You say<br />

that your book is entitled Blessed Disillusionment. Can you<br />

explain what disillusionment means?<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Well, it's strange, I think usually in our<br />

culture when we hear the word disillusionment, there's a sense of<br />

failure around it, or I was disillusioned, people would say, and it<br />

just seems like a defeat. But to me all disillusionment means is<br />

losing the illusions that one has held onto. <strong>The</strong> main illusion that<br />

is the bane of our lives is the illusion of separation, the ego idea.<br />

And it crosses over <strong>with</strong> sustainability, once again the ego feels<br />

separate, so it feels apart from nature, it feels like it can pollute the<br />

environment <strong>with</strong>out polluting itself. That's just an illusion<br />

though, it isn't separate, it has to breathe the air that gets polluted,<br />

the organism does, and it has to drink the water. So separation<br />

just doesn't exist on any level, and to me, the main illusion is the<br />

illusion of separation.<br />

TRIP: And that's what your book is really about, it goes through<br />

that illusion over, and over, and over again.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. It's the root. In sustainability it's also<br />

the root of the problem, it's feeling apart from the world, and<br />

human beings feeling apart from each other. I figure why strike at<br />

the symptoms of that problem, you might as well go ahead and<br />

strike at the root of it.<br />

WIZARD: Yes.<br />

TRIP: Speaking of that separation, I've got a question for you, and<br />

it's a question I have for almost all of the authors of books about<br />

reality, if you will. You had a choice in the writing of the book, you<br />

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