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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

mobile home. And that's still $50,000, $60,000, and you have a<br />

house or a shelter that is going to cost you extreme amounts of<br />

money during its life because it's not insulated well, it's not<br />

pointing in the right direction. On the other hand you can build an<br />

earth bag house like we did for around $4,000. And it stays cool<br />

in the summer, doesn't need AC, you just think about the direction<br />

of the sun, and I think it's a no brainer. I mean it's economically<br />

smart, and it's a way that you can live, even if the power is shut off.<br />

TRIP: You didn't really build the entire house for $4,000, did<br />

you?<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Yes. Earth bag building is very cheap<br />

because really the price of the bags is one of the main costs, and<br />

wood, for the roof, was another main cost. But we got all our<br />

windows and doors at Habitat for Humanities that we would come<br />

across. A great place, by the way, for building materials.<br />

TRIP: What about power, and plumbing, and all that? I mean,<br />

that stuff is expensive.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: Well we use the Humanure system, are<br />

you familiar <strong>with</strong> that?<br />

TRIP: Yes.<br />

MORGAN CARAWAY: We use the Humanure system, and it's a<br />

great system, there's a book about it that I suggest to everyone<br />

called <strong>The</strong> Humanure Handbook available from amazon.com, all<br />

the major book sellers have it. And he says, it's crazy what our<br />

current system is, which we flush away our waste <strong>with</strong> fresh<br />

drinking water, and in the process lose the organic matter in our<br />

waste and we ruin the drinking water. So it's not a very smart way<br />

to deal <strong>with</strong> it, so we use the Humanure system which doesn't<br />

stink like some regular composting toilets do. For electricity we<br />

just have a very small solar set up, 300 watts of panels.<br />

TRIP: Wow, you're living very simply, aren't you?<br />

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