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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

exercise of sharing to others. So that me may be seen by others as<br />

such.<br />

WIZARD: Yes, the me-storyline borrows its sentience from Now.<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: Yes.<br />

TRIP: I'm just going to jump around here to things that caught my<br />

attention in reading your book. One of them was that you said,<br />

"People do tend to look to a spiritual teacher in human form", but<br />

you say that teachers come in all forms, and it came to you in<br />

many different forms. So I thought it would be interesting for you<br />

to share some of those forms that came along during your spiritual<br />

education.<br />

ALBERT NAHMANI: And they still do [Laughs]. Well, I was<br />

going to write a little bio, a novel, for my grandchildren, and the<br />

first story that I started <strong>with</strong> was, I called it the birdie, little birdie.<br />

And I must have been like four, or five. <strong>The</strong> memory is that I am<br />

outside in the street; this is like a little Jewish ghetto street in Fez.<br />

And I seemed to have this little birdie attached <strong>with</strong> a string<br />

attached to my little finger. A few boys were playing around and<br />

suddenly a cat comes in (I'm making the story short) and snatches<br />

the little birdie in its mouth, and runs away <strong>with</strong> it. At that<br />

moment it seemed to have been an out of body experience where<br />

I'm watching this whole scene of the cat preparing itself to take<br />

over, and jumping and snatching the birdie. And everything<br />

seems up there silent and peaceful, watching this scene unfold.<br />

And I know psychologists will probably call that. <strong>The</strong>y call that a<br />

split of a kind when in trauma, and that tends to happen, and it's<br />

true probably if you want to name it as such. But when I look back<br />

in my life, this is like one meaning, example, of so many that<br />

started in my mind the question of who or what am I. Because at<br />

that moment one realizes there is another dimension prior, and<br />

you feel there is something witnessing, and also you feel that in<br />

spite of the trauma, this witnessing is peaceful. Of course I'm four<br />

or five years old, I didn't ask myself all these questions. But down<br />

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