Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
TRIP: He's great. Another beautiful aspect of your teaching I want
to have you explore some more is that you say we only perceive
lack in a world we fail to explore. Perhaps the only thing that is
ever lacking in our lives is the lack of adventure and exploration
that we came to this planet to freely experience in the first place.
That’s beautiful. So it's really that desire to explore, to play. So,
talk about that.
MATT KAHN: It is in the realization it is not ending up at a
conclusion of now I get it, now I can repeat it. It is like a child
staring in awe of a fireworks display, it is like a child looking up at
the stars not knowing what is and not knowing what isn't, but just
in that sense of wow. And what we're really returning to is our
own childlike innocent desire to explore and to explore means I
enter into a moment without a need to refer to things the way
things don't refer to themselves. Maybe I even see that things
don't even refer to me the way I refer to me. if I don’t' refer to
anything at all, and I'm just allowing the senses, or the seeing to
invite into the experience, whatever this moment happens,
however this moment happens to decorate itself, then there is a
sense of… in that adventure we find a sense of equality and
acknowledgment that perhaps everything that appears in form is
only appearing to be acknowledged with heartfelt equality, which
cannot happen when we try to do it, it can only happen naturally
from the seeing that only sees equality and wholeness, no matter
how the form is decorated.
So for me the exploration is the interest to just be open to all
possibilities in every moment, no matter what imagination
remembers before.
TRIP: I see why you and Scott Kiloby are friends [Laughs].
MATT KAHN: He's a wonderful man.
TRIP: You guys are both tight, really tight. Okay, we've got about
six more minutes left, and I've got a question from Kim. She says
her question is a simply complex one, as paradoxical as
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