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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

MATT KAHN: Right. And right now in a lot of circles, and again I<br />

say this just because the sign of the times, <strong>with</strong> no malice, because<br />

again even the work that I do <strong>with</strong> helping people is a play <strong>with</strong>in<br />

the divine, and I think that it's important for anyone who plays<br />

this role to know the game. Because it’s easy for this to become an<br />

identity, a business model, as you said. For me this is just how the<br />

divine is playing in the form, all that comes in sessions is just the<br />

divine. And from that knowing I can hold that space there in a<br />

very mature and grounded way. But a lot of times what happens is<br />

we've learned about the inquiry of looking <strong>with</strong>in, the spiritual<br />

impulse happens, but there hasn't been a lot of knowledge on<br />

working <strong>with</strong> the over stimulated nervous system first. It's almost<br />

like the nervous system must be unraveled to create the sacred<br />

space for the seeing to occur.<br />

And what happens is it creates a spiritual journey where spiritual<br />

concepts, and words, and ideas are learned, remembered, and<br />

regurgitated by the imaginary identity of an over stimulated<br />

nervous system, which creates very, very intricate spiritual<br />

identities. And then to be able to help someone wake up out of<br />

that would require them to be of the utmost level of sincerity. I'm<br />

thankful that what is happening now, and what I seem to be here<br />

to introduce, is an opportunity to make this as clear and as simple<br />

that matches and mirrors one's level of sincerity to investigate the<br />

depths of who they are.<br />

TRIP: This brings me, and you've just mentioned it, to the next<br />

point of your teaching, which I think is just where it's at, which is a<br />

thread, you say, that runs through every spiritual journey. Every<br />

productive, I guess, spiritual journey is an emersion in heartfelt<br />

sincerity.<br />

WIZARD: I love that.<br />

TRIP: I love that, I have to say when I reflect upon my own rapid,<br />

if you want to call it spiritual, evolution, and then I look out into<br />

the landscape of my friends who to me sometimes appear to be<br />

stuck. I attribute it to the blessing of sincerity, you know, that I<br />

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