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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

energetic psychological cocoon, to incubate let's call it the soul,<br />

which is just an individual expression of pure awareness. And<br />

when it's time for that awakening to occur, the eroding of that<br />

cocoon, which is the unraveling of the over stimulated nervous<br />

system, creates a sense of confusion that is the vehicle that takes<br />

one into an experience that when that nervous system is either<br />

interrupted, which creates an opening, or when it falls away<br />

completely, then all of a sudden the experience of awakening is<br />

consciousness is experienced as natural state of eternal being, the<br />

heart is naturally open, the mind goes silent. And people can call<br />

those samadhi experiences, or glimpses of awakening. And when<br />

they go back into that shutting down, it's because the body is going<br />

back to its remembered pattern of over stimulation.<br />

So what I find to be the case, and what I perceive intuitively to be<br />

where things will go in the immediate and distant future, is that<br />

thankfully in this new paradigm of spirituality, it's no longer going<br />

to be the case of sitting around and talking about the mind and the<br />

ego, but it's actually going to be addressing the over stimulated<br />

nervous system. And what I have found when I have worked <strong>with</strong><br />

people intuitively, when I first address the nervous system, and we<br />

unravel that, then we introduce the pointings into the nondual or<br />

undivided state of pure seeing. <strong>The</strong> lights can go on, the seeing is<br />

simple, and there doesn't have to be this back and forth that<br />

creates this spiritual identity, and we can actually experience an<br />

abiding awakening <strong>with</strong> an understanding of that on a cellular and<br />

biologic level.<br />

WIZARD: Do you think the over stimulated nervous system is a<br />

part of an idea of doership?<br />

MATT KAHN: I would say that the depth to which the nervous<br />

system is over stimulated is the degree to which someone believes<br />

that they're the one doing what is occurring on its own.<br />

WIZARD: Beautiful.<br />

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