Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
that's going on. Can you talk about that, because you'll do a much
better job than I can?
MATT KAHN: Well here's what comes to me right out to speak on
this. And again I feel like when you receive things that come
through spontaneously and it seems to kind of shine or illuminate
a light on missing elements, it can be very helpful. What I found is
I came into the spiritual journey, having had my unique
experiences, and I started learning about the other paths, because
I didn't know about the other paths. I just learned to see what
other people were teaching, and things started to come to me.
One of the things is that confusion is actually an experience that
we have when we're transitioning out of what we would call the
egoic state of consciousness into the seeing of pure consciousness.
That's basically the transition. And a lot of times what happens
are people are trying to find remedies and modalities to solve the
confusions, instead of seeing that as the vessel that takes one from
suffering and into a realization of our true natural inherent
liberated state of being.
Just if I could explain it in a different way that might make it
easier to understand. When we're in an egoic state of
consciousness, because a lot of people want to talk about blaming
the mind, blaming ego, blaming our perceptions of separation,
what I have found spontaneously is that all three of those things,
and all of the other symptoms, are not the reason why we perceive
the way we perceive. The reason all of those things exist is because
the body as it has evolved in this form, in this dream, exist with an
over stimulated nervous system. And when that over stimulated
nervous system is intact, the imaginary identity of an over
stimulated nervous system is what we call ego. And when the
nervous system is over stimulated the mind is noisy, it goes in
cyclical thoughts, the heart feels closed, all relationships are built
on co-dependent values, and all choices are run by addicted
behaviors. That's just the way the ego works, but it's all just a play
of an over stimulated nervous system. And that over stimulated
nervous system is actually on purpose to create a cocoon, an
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