Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
TRIP: Right, I want to say that you're an interesting guy to me
because when I get down into your teaching I see someone who
seems to be utterly attuned to the potential of spiritual speak to
confuse the matter, and you speak very plainly and really to the
depths of what matters of coming into yourself. And I want to get
into some of those beautiful things that you share about that.
But then on the other hand, this is the thing that I wonder about
and you can help me with this. In the choice of sharing who you
are, you talk about being a mystic, experiences with ascended
masters and archangels, and you continue to have these
experiences. And then you also talk of wanting to help people
enjoy these experiences that haven't. I find that to be an absolute
juxtaposition with the message that you bring that it's about this
clear spaciousness underneath all experiences that remains, that's
there always, that's independent of the experiences, that's the joy
that's independent of all of that. And that's what you teach.
So on the one hand it's almost like, now you correct me if I'm
wrong, but this is what it looks like to me. It's almost like you're a
fisher of men, like Jesus Christ if you will, and you've decided that
the best bait [Laughs] is to caste out some of these amazing
experiences that you've had that people will at least give you the
benefit of a moment's attention that you can then share with them
the deeper Truth that's underneath all these amazing experiences.
MATT KAHN: Got you, I understand what you're saying.
TRIP: Is that right? I mean, why do you choose that particular
stuff, because you could say a lot of stuff about yourself that has
nothing to do with that.
MATT KAHN: I could, but to be honest I don't really make those
kinds of choices. Everything in my life, every choice, every word I
speak, is guided. I don't find myself making choices; I just watch
how things play out. And for a while, for at least the last 10 years,
it has been on this trajectory where the words just, you know,
someone asks me a question, and I'm hearing what I'm saying as
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