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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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WIZARD: Amen.<br />

<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: I feel there's a certain magnetic quality<br />

to it where if there's Maren coming in a personal sense, coming in<br />

or needing something, when I let go of that, or when by grace it is<br />

let go of, then it arrives effortlessly, and it just comes in the form<br />

like you say in the beautiful reflection in the mirror of beloved<br />

people, or friends, of some help. Where there's a need it's<br />

automatically already met, and it already is met on the inner<br />

planes anyway, since there is really no need, and its unspeakable<br />

and the divine. It's absolute, it has no preference, it has no needs,<br />

it doesn't know of any lack.<br />

WIZARD: That is Truth. That is the essence of Truth. It's<br />

beautiful.<br />

TRIP: I feel kinship <strong>with</strong> you because your self-perception is not<br />

of being a sage, you see yourself as being an ordinary person, and<br />

you also don't feel qualified to teach anybody anything, and I feel<br />

the same way. And then you look out there and you see people like<br />

Nisargadatta, who's very fierce in his conviction that he is the one<br />

and the all. And so people are attracted to him because of that<br />

ferocity of conviction, it's contagious. But I've been attracted to<br />

women in my life that are the service types like you are, that have<br />

very sensitive constitutions, and tend to internalize pain and<br />

things, and take on other people's pain. So I'm curious. It took<br />

some courage I guess, inner courage for me, but ultimately I was<br />

able to go ahead and make this declaration that I am that, to just<br />

finally say, I am that, this is all there is, it is utterly magical, and<br />

just be done <strong>with</strong> it. Did you ever consciously summon up the<br />

courage to make that internal declaration?<br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Yes, actually I feel the same kinship,<br />

and it was exactly the same way. I think it happened the year after<br />

the near death experience, I think I had been in hiding for a long<br />

time. I so loved my family, I so loved my friends, and for a long<br />

time I was hiding it, and I wanted to just transmit the essence<br />

<strong>with</strong>out coming out virtually of what my beliefs are. At the time<br />

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