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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
bodies, or orbs [phonetic 26.21], or all of that were just more
phenomena that can be a distraction until we've exhausted chasing
mirages of our own making and settlement to the peace of
oneness. But Muktananda served me very well in that regard,
some regard him as a miracle minder, but really his work with me
was to exhaust these tendencies.
MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Wow, that's really powerful, I really,
really love that, and I would in principle completely agree from
experiences. That I would say that also at least in this life things
like orbs for example can also be a beautiful, just a beautiful
celebration, or like you say also, a clear mirror which also came
into my life unasked for, as a big surprise. I got dear friends, by
grace the orb specialists the Heinemanns, Klaus and Gundi, who
live 10 minutes from here, and are just absolutely delightful. And I
was introduced to orbs through them, and started noticing them,
and photographing them, and so on. And that was not part of the
distraction anymore, it was just part of the celebration of life
where everything became so much more subtle, and as you say
obviously it's still part of the mental phenomena, and obviously it
can totally be part of phenomena that one prefers, or that are in
line with one's likings. And I like that you say about exhausting all
that. I will mull over that deeply and let it marinate, I find that
very, very beautiful.
WIZARD: When Papaji was hanging out with Ramana Maharshi,
he would go on the other side of Arunachala that's supposedly the
mystical side where that tank was, the first tank around the
mountain on the inter path, and he would play with Krishna. And
they would, and he would have a real apparition which I myself
had, and he would play with Krishna and play with Krishna. And
then he'd come back to the little room at Ramanashram, and
Ramana would ask him, "What have you been up to?", and he said,
"I've been playing with Krishna". And Ramana Maharshi said,
"Well, bring him out right now, let's play, where is he right now?”
Papaji said, "I can't", and Ramana Maharshi said, "What's eternal,
what is Truth, is present right now. He doesn't come or go".
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