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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages heady stuff, the metaphysical stuff really gets one or can get one to the mystical, where all that is then laid aside, and where at a certain point I always found one teaching that had totally resonated. Like for example A Course in Miracles for some years where the words were like a life essence, they were like my daily food, or something. I know almost the whole course word by word still, by heart. And one day it just stopped working, like there was nothing in it, and it felt bland and there wasn't any life, nothing jumped out anymore, and I was just done with it. And there was a short period of almost grieving for that, and short period of disorientation, and then another teaching would come in and it would be Ramana Maharshi for many years, then Nisargadatta, and the Atma Darshan. Yes, that seemed to happen, and then Ganga ji as well. And I also met many of these people and it was a palpable transmission at times, and I just felt their essence and I felt the sameness, and I was treated with the sameness, and with a unconditional love, with an absolute spaciousness and clarity, and that taught me that those people were real, that the teaching was real, what they were saying. That there wasn't something to have followers, or any of that, I never fancied anything like a guru relationship, to a devotee, or any of that was not for me. I always thought, no, no, we have to… there's no way around it, there's no easy way. And I totally respect that that works for many people and that for many people that is the ultimate way. Just wasn't the way here, I always found I had to find it myself, I had to go through every detour or every necessary step. I just love how every human life is so utterly unique, and how one cannot really compare one life to another one, because one doesn't walk in other people's shoes. WIZARD: There are models. No models of behavior. MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Absolutely, beautiful. WIZARD: The transmissions are like the transmissions of a mirror, they're just reflections, there's really no movement. 350
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: They really are, they really are. WIZARD: They're just reflections, and if you have a great appreciation for Ramana Maharshi and you hear what he shares. MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Also like an ancient recognition, isn't it? When you meet somebody like Ganga ji for example, and it was just like I saw her last April in Washington, or in Maryland I believe, I've forgot, somewhere at a Satsang, and I'd read and love You Are That, especially that book, I love that book very, very much. And I love her work. And I also love Jackie O'Keefe's work, I love Katie Davis' work. There's so many I love, Byron Katie, and Ganga ji actually felt on the inner plane which had happened before with Jackie O'Keefe that there was something not quite resolved yet with me. And after the Satsang we were all told to sit down and to stay seated, so that she could leave the room in peace, and not be bothered by anybody. Of course everybody respectfully abided, and to my great surprise her assistant motioned me to get up all of a sudden, and she took my hand and we basically walked out of the room into the sunset and we spoke softly with one another. And it was just such a joy of recognition, it was like an ancient recognition of, I don't know if it's a soul group or something on human terms, if one even has to label anything, but just a complete and utter joy of being in the presence of one's Self really, of all that really is. WIZARD: Pure equality. MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Yes. WIZARD: And equality of vision that where there's no other in the sharing. When I look at a picture of Ramana Maharshi or I was in the presence of Papaji, or hung out with Muktananda for years, they were just reflections. And Muktananda, I had when I was with Muktananda, I had some un-burnt desires for spiritual experiences and I got rung out there, I got them all, to the point I was exhausted, and knowing that if it moves, it's the movie, it's part of the illusion. And the stillness is Truth, and any out of 351
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