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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

heady stuff, the metaphysical stuff really gets one or can get one to<br />

the mystical, where all that is then laid aside, and where at a<br />

certain point I always found one teaching that had totally<br />

resonated. Like for example A Course in Miracles for some years<br />

where the words were like a life essence, they were like my daily<br />

food, or something. I know almost the whole course word by word<br />

still, by heart.<br />

And one day it just stopped working, like there was nothing in it,<br />

and it felt bland and there wasn't any life, nothing jumped out<br />

anymore, and I was just done <strong>with</strong> it. And there was a short<br />

period of almost grieving for that, and short period of<br />

disorientation, and then another teaching would come in and it<br />

would be Ramana Maharshi for many years, then Nisargadatta,<br />

and the Atma Darshan. Yes, that seemed to happen, and then<br />

Ganga ji as well. And I also met many of these people and it was a<br />

palpable transmission at times, and I just felt their essence and I<br />

felt the sameness, and I was treated <strong>with</strong> the sameness, and <strong>with</strong> a<br />

unconditional love, <strong>with</strong> an absolute spaciousness and clarity, and<br />

that taught me that those people were real, that the teaching was<br />

real, what they were saying. That there wasn't something to have<br />

followers, or any of that, I never fancied anything like a guru<br />

relationship, to a devotee, or any of that was not for me. I always<br />

thought, no, no, we have to… there's no way around it, there's no<br />

easy way. And I totally respect that that works for many people<br />

and that for many people that is the ultimate way. Just wasn't the<br />

way here, I always found I had to find it myself, I had to go<br />

through every detour or every necessary step. I just love how<br />

every human life is so utterly unique, and how one cannot really<br />

compare one life to another one, because one doesn't walk in other<br />

people's shoes.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong>re are models. No models of behavior.<br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Absolutely, beautiful.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> transmissions are like the transmissions of a<br />

mirror, they're just reflections, there's really no movement.<br />

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