Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
to know what is really real, and that this impermanent person and
body, and so on, will not last, but that it can do something useful
in this lifetime towards total absolute surrender.
WIZARD: Likewise. Yes.
TRIP: I feel like what might happen for a lot of folks, what
happened for me was there was an initial emotion, a huge
emotional feeling about God or being at one with… and then the
head, there was a big head period there where the head needed to
get its due, and I needed to unlearn a bunch of stuff. So I went
into a headspace for a while to get rid of a bunch of stuff, and then
now it's again Now, it’s kind of a devotional thing, the love
remains. At the end of your poems, Spun Gold, you finish the
poem with the words, well it's not the very last line, but it's, "Total
openness remains". The Wizard calls it pure capacity.
MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Lovely.
TRIP: When we're feeling love, is that what we're feeling, totally
open? Is that what love is?
MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: I think so, but I like John's words even
better. Because it is pure potentiality, everything is wide open;
everything is unconditioned, beyond time and space, completely
timeless. And I love what you just said because it was exactly the
same way here, and I find it's true for many, many people. I had to
do the long headway too, to educate myself to make sense of the
experiences I was already having innerly, and find out what they
were about, and if there was anybody who could tell me what it
was about.
I practiced metaphysics for a long time, and then I practiced
nonduality for a long time, and Peter Francis Dziuban has been
elementary, I love his book, Consciousness is All, I have three
copies of it in my bookshelf. Joel Goldsmith, the American mystic
from the last century, I studied The Infinite Way for a long, long
time. And really enjoyed all that, and it really, like you say, the
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