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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: Your physical, your manifestations appear physical<br />

inconveniences; do you see that in a similar vein as much as your<br />

poetry, that it's a part of the unfolding of what wants to happen?<br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Yes, I actually do. I think, and this<br />

might go against mainstream nonduality very much, or what other<br />

lovely people say on your show, but I do believe that, or I've come<br />

to know that strong boundaries are also very, very important. I<br />

used to have literally none. I was so open, I was so extremely<br />

open, I just loved the whole world, I loved everybody, and I loved<br />

serving. I was always there for other people, and I always put<br />

everybody before myself, and I was just always of service. I think I<br />

basically swallowed more than I could take in, and I had to learn<br />

the hard lesson to set some healthy boundaries, and to not accept<br />

abuse, for example, and to not accept respectlessness from people,<br />

and learn more what the human me was about, which was a very,<br />

very hard thing to do, because tapping into the infinite has been<br />

almost effortless all my life.<br />

And I think you can probably relate to that, and that comes very<br />

easy, and that is the natural state. But dealing <strong>with</strong> the nitty gritty<br />

human daily life was something I really had to learn at quite a late<br />

age from scratch, basically. And I do use it every day, like if I ever<br />

get irritated <strong>with</strong> not finding the right tube size, and needing a<br />

third surgery, because the ordering department messed something<br />

up or so. <strong>The</strong>n I use it to exercise my patience, which is not one of<br />

my fortes, and I try to use everything as an opportunity, and as a<br />

challenge. It takes sometimes a few days to get around, wrap my<br />

mind around it, or basically probably not to do that, to surrender<br />

the mind, and surrender everything to God. And I'm deeply on the<br />

devotional path, and it sounds like you guys are too from what I'm<br />

picking up.<br />

That is just such a beautiful thing, it's something that's also<br />

unasked for that is just given by grace, and there is just this deep,<br />

deep devotion, no matter what happens to stay true to that, and to<br />

know that everything is that, and when there's appearances to dig<br />

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