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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Well there is another aspect to your ordeal, which was that<br />

you took an inner vow that you spoke about. And I wanted to just<br />

contrast your inner vow <strong>with</strong> a less evolved vow that I took once<br />

when I was in college, just so people can know what a beautiful<br />

person you are in the midst of that crisis. Not to go on my person<br />

thing, but when I was in college my girlfriend thought that she had<br />

gotten pregnant, and she missed a few cycles, and it was very<br />

disconcerting to her, and to me. So I said to God, I said, "God, if<br />

you will get me through the thing and not make my girlfriend<br />

pregnant, I promise I will get to know you and I will read the<br />

bible", that was my vow.<br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: That is stunningly beautiful; I really,<br />

really appreciate hearing that, thank you for sharing.<br />

TRIP: Well I just want to say though, I did not end up reading the<br />

bible, but I did ultimately get to know God and I threw my entire<br />

heart into that. But I wanted to say that when you were in the<br />

midst of dying, okay, you made an inner vow, but there was no, if<br />

you save me Gold, pledge in there, you just wanted to be able to<br />

share the beautiful Truth of who we are <strong>with</strong> others, isn't that<br />

correct?<br />

MAREN SPRINGSTEEN: Not quite actually, Trip. I think your<br />

vow is much more powerful than mine was to be honest, really,<br />

really hats off to you. Because I honestly have to say that my vow<br />

was nothing special, and it didn’t come by volition, it came to my<br />

total surprise, completely unasked for, by itself. I resisted having<br />

this tube in my belly for the longest time, because I wanted to lead<br />

a totally normal life, and didn't want to face up to the fact that I<br />

couldn't swallow fluids anymore, thanks to God I can still eat and I<br />

enjoy that. But I was at the outpatient center for the longest time<br />

every day getting IV drips <strong>with</strong> water, and I was surrounded by<br />

AIDS and cancer patients, and I was very clear about that I was<br />

still very, very lucky, and I tried to cheer up the other patients and<br />

bond <strong>with</strong> them. And speaking <strong>with</strong> them and realizing what they<br />

had to deal <strong>with</strong> and that what my ordeal was nothing in<br />

comparison, it really was very little in comparison.<br />

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