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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: You would have been a very attractive little black widow<br />

back then. I'm going to go to something a little less profound here,<br />

and just comment, an observation. We've had a number of<br />

younger sages on our avant-<strong>garde</strong> program here, we've had Jeff<br />

Foster, and a guy named Benjamin Smythe. We had a woman,<br />

Elona Ciunate recently, and Bentinho, and we had also Bentinho's<br />

friend, Karen. Karen Richards, and all of you have the same fresh<br />

just this, just this approach to sharing. And all of you are using<br />

video, and young people are used to trusting their eyes I've<br />

noticed, and they're on like different types of screens all day long,<br />

they really like video. And you're using video to a great extent, it's<br />

almost entirely what you're doing, or maybe not, I shouldn't say<br />

that, but at least as far as your website goes.<br />

WIZARD: That's how I came upon Lisa was through YouTube.<br />

TRIP: And what I like about video, and I'd like you to ultimately<br />

comment here on video, but on one level there's no hiding there. I<br />

mean, you're just like right there and it's very intimate. <strong>The</strong>re's no<br />

hiding, every moment is recorded, it's very fresh and spontaneous,<br />

and obviously it's a good tool. Not long ago this tool didn't exist;<br />

people organized their lives around spending time <strong>with</strong> an<br />

established teacher. But now someone can easily partake of just<br />

this tool as opposed to others. If it's as simple as just this, as you<br />

justifiable assert over and over again, do you think video is a<br />

sufficient tool for someone to become established? Is it a<br />

sufficient medium? Is it like replacing time <strong>with</strong> an established<br />

person, an established teacher?<br />

LISA CAIRNS: Well, there are a few different elements to that.<br />

<strong>The</strong> first one is that because of what I described before about life is<br />

always perfectly doing its dance, and there is no cause and effect.<br />

Life takes each supposed or apparent individual to what their<br />

meant to be looking at, viewing, reading, at exactly the right time,<br />

and does its dance perfectly. So I don't see there is a way, like<br />

there is just what somebody's doing, and whether that leads to<br />

liberation or not is just down to what is written, or the destiny, or<br />

whatever you call it, of that person. I don't see a way.<br />

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