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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

that I was a murderer, that the character, not Lisa, but it was like I<br />

experienced being the murderer, and I could see how it was<br />

impossible not to murder. That was written in me the urge to<br />

murder, and I could see the impossibility of not doing that, and<br />

the urge was so strong, and it was seeing all the different dynamics<br />

of why and how the murderer was programmed, the guilt, and the<br />

absolute victimhood of the murderer. Like to murder you feel<br />

absolutely victim to life, victim to circumstance. And it was like a<br />

really beautiful experience seeing that, seeing that it's not<br />

somebody doing it, it's completely impersonal.<br />

WIZARD: Now I feel better, I feel better about that piece of<br />

cheesecake I ate at midnight. [Laughing]<br />

TRIP: Well seeing through that illusion of the personal has been<br />

quite useful to your friends, a guy named Mike Lowing, said that<br />

you guys Skyped a couple of times, and he could see what was<br />

holding him back from complete freedom. And it turned<br />

everything around for him, and he's very grateful to you for this. I<br />

could read what you wrote him, maybe I will, since he took the<br />

trouble the write it. He said, "<strong>The</strong> whole mind falls to bits, there's<br />

nothing to hold onto, that's not to say that all the teachings that<br />

you had in the past weren't perfect, there couldn't have been any<br />

other way". That was how Mike's story had to go. "But now the<br />

whole construct of mind falls apart, nothing makes sense because<br />

it is now beginning to be seen as just is, rather than somebody<br />

doing something, whether that be God, or another human. Life is<br />

just happening <strong>with</strong>out anybody doing anything. And this baffles<br />

the mind, cause and effect are just apparent, really there is only<br />

ever been and only ever will be this, and all the teachings become a<br />

bit senseless, but still the heart sings <strong>with</strong> them. Nothing is left to<br />

hold onto, complete free-falling love. Although that is just a<br />

thought, it can't be held onto, just this, which contains all of this".<br />

WIZARD: Beautiful.<br />

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