Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
a guest that we're anticipating in March. And so while I was
preparing for you, I was reading about the Ribhu Gita. And I
wanted to read just a short section of that because it contrasted so
starkly with what you shared about this, just this, right. It says,
"Siva must be meditated upon and realized to be the self by
making the restless mind stay still and alert after it has been
adequately restrained, and completely prevented from the pursuit
of sense objects, namely the shadow pictures on the screen of the
self. All shadow pictures removed; what remains is pure
awareness, the spotlessly effulgent screen". Now this seems on the
surface like a stark contradiction with a easy accessibility of the
Self that you speak to as just this, but there is no contradiction in
these views, is there?
LISA CAIRNS: No.
TRIP: Can you explain?
LISA CAIRNS: Contradiction in me, you said?
TRIP: There's no contradiction there, why is that?
LISA CAIRNS: From my understanding of what you just said, and
intellectually I'm not that great any more, my intellect doesn't
seem to work so well. Is that it was saying that you see through
the shadow of self, is that correct? It was saying?
TRIP: You see through the shadows, yes.
LISA CAIRNS: Of self?
TRIP: Of the material realm, yes, and the sense of objects.
LISA CAIRNS: Yes and there's just pure awareness left. I don't
see that in contradiction of just this at all.
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