Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
think their heart would start singing, but when the heart or when
it's ready this is heard, or when it's time, or when that's the story,
it's heard.
TRIP: So when in your life, as you and your boyfriend are moving
around and having fun, and hanging out with your friends, do you
bring this topic up, or is it something that you pretty much share
through your videos on your website?
LISA CAIRNS: Pretty much just with people that are interested in
it. Occasionally my friends or family might ask about it, but
normally I direct the conversation away from it, unless they're
really interested in asking a question. But I normally sense that
there's not really that much interest in it, it's just a vague
conversation just going on. But I love talking about it with people
that are really interested in it, but not with people that it's just idle
chitchat.
WIZARD: So in the Heart Sutra, is there a portion in that that
readily speaks to you that you can share with our listeners?
LISA CAIRNS: I can't really remember it, I used to chant it every
day when I was a practicing Buddhist, and it's funny, I tried to
think of it the other day when I was quoting at someone. But if I
put it into my own words, the bit that I loved particularly was
something like, "Emptiness is form, form is emptiness" and then it
describes each sense, and the emptiness of each sense, and then it
describes the fullness of each sense like sight, hearing, feeling,
thoughts. And it's just beautiful; it's a really beautiful sutra. I
should put it in my notes on my website or something.
WIZARD: Yes. A similar one that I like a lot is Ribhu Gita, and
this is the jewel of Advaita from which Ramana Maharshi drew the
teaching, Self Inquiry.
TRIP: Well there's a stark contrast in the way sharing happens in
the Ribhu Gita, and I'm boned up on it, because the Wizard here
[Laughs] asked me to bone up on the Ribhu Gita in preparation for
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