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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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TRIP: Thank you.<br />

<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong>re's something so wholesome and pleasant about<br />

the ordinary and letting the ordinary… the ordinary, the magic, is<br />

still, and the ordinary is just so exquisite. As you say, it's<br />

extraordinarily ordinary to relax into that ordinary.<br />

TRIP: You write, I'm moving along here trying to pack as much as<br />

we can into our hour.<br />

PHILIP: It's the ego that always demands more than the ordinary,<br />

the ego demands extraordinary ordinary in the unhealthy sense.<br />

WIZARD: It's stealing the show.<br />

PHILIP: Yes.<br />

TRIP: You write, "Your freedom is not even in healing the past,<br />

this concentration is a past fixation so you are not present for joy."<br />

Healer in some form or fashion is one of the most prevalent<br />

occupations in our local community of those who also describe<br />

themselves as spiritual. Scarcely a gathering goes by that I attend<br />

where there isn't some invocation to healing. What role does<br />

healing play in spirituality?<br />

KATIE DAVIS: In the book when you read that passage, I do not<br />

remember the context of it, but I was referring to psychological<br />

therapy. Before the awakening, therapy is common and it certainly<br />

has its place. Yet, it deals <strong>with</strong> the story of “me,” whereas<br />

awakening is waking up from the storyteller and it painful story,<br />

instead of fixing it. You can not fix something that is not. Through<br />

therapy, the ego may become relatively happier and that is<br />

beautiful. However, what you end up <strong>with</strong> is a better false self. On<br />

the other hand, therapy usually shifts attention from the life<br />

situation (story) back to the person; me and my thoughts, me and<br />

my emotions, me and my body. In this manner, it is a great<br />

preparation for the awakening. Free of the ego, we realize that we<br />

are happiness itself, not someone who is becoming happy. But the<br />

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