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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

It always comes back to holding the attention. I recently was given<br />

a gift of what I call my experience of the Lord's Prayer, and in one<br />

part of it it says, I say to myself, give us this day your holy breath<br />

that we may be aware of your divine presence, and know your love,<br />

and it goes on. John blessed me <strong>with</strong> a great Easter Satsang, I call<br />

it the thorn of death, I don't think he calls it that, but that's<br />

[Laughs]…<br />

WIZARD: Yes, it's the thorn of death. Now what Katie is<br />

confessing is that that's removed.<br />

KATIE DAVIS: That is beautiful. Words always point to this and<br />

it is very rich, nurturing and energetic.<br />

PHILIP: I'm also in a way tickled, and maybe I don't know, I don't<br />

think it's a cynical way, but the whole idea of born again, because<br />

it seems to me that born again became very popular, but you must<br />

die and be born again. <strong>The</strong> dying part has never been very popular<br />

[Laughs].<br />

WIZARD: That's that I thought.<br />

PHILIP: That's that ego, that tenacious, implacable, ego that is<br />

like the gorgon that you cut off one head and two grow back. As<br />

long as you fight <strong>with</strong> you, you're feeding it.<br />

WIZARD: Ramana Maharshi says you go to the root. <strong>The</strong> root is<br />

the I-thought and then investigate that.<br />

PHILIP: Amen.<br />

WIZARD: If you don't have the capacity to do that, then<br />

surrender and put the I-thought out of a job.<br />

TRIP: So, Katie, it's time for my Jerry Springer question. You and<br />

Sundance have a kind of ideal relationship, you're both attractive,<br />

you're both articulate, you both have been successful in the<br />

business world, and you’ve got a nice family. You're so compatible<br />

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