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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
discrimination. Then, there is direct understanding. As John
pointed out, we allow all to be as it is. That might be challenging
for the ego state of consciousness. We were talking before about
the “external” and allowing the life situation to be as it is. Is it
possible to just allow all to be as it is within you? Ultimately there
is no inside or outside, but we're speaking right now of inward
looking, without judging it, without trying to stop it. Even if there
is judging or trying to stop, you are just aware, while accepting and
allowing. As I said before, the observing is the transforming.
TRIP: You were a teacher, and you write in your book, "I thought I
was the finger pointing to the moon creation, in fact I was neither
finger nor moon. In retrospect observing was the power." What
does it say of our educational system that this reality is never
discussed? And the follow up question is, and if this topic were
discussed, would it be considered as secular discussion, or a
religious one, do you think?
WIZARD: Good question.
KATIE DAVIS: Yes. I only know that in the high school where I
taught, there was definitely a resistance to spirituality, within the
educational community structure. However, if we spoke in terms
of intelligence and inquiry, it might be successful, if there was
community readiness. Right now the schools seem to focus on
practical knowledge and that is important too. Yet what we are
sharing here is also practical; it is self-understanding and
observing. Also, once we realize who we are, what we see also
changes.
Right now the collective consciousness is just in this upheaval. To
go back a little bit, we were talking about suffering and being free
of the individual, false sense of self. You asked whether there was
suffering still appearing here. There is deeper suffering within you
that is the collective state of ego consciousness that likewise can be
investigated. The most amazing thing is when you get to the very
root of it, it is a delusion.
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