Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
beyond the mind with all its chatter, recriminations and so forth.
And I got this image of when you're in a pool of water. You're
swimming towards like a ping pong ball and your very effort keeps
moving the ping pong ball away from you.
KATIE DAVIS: Right. That's a perfect analogy.
PHILIP: Yes. That's what I've been hearing, as we try to describe
these things that are so I guess challenging to describe in this
process, which really isn't a process. It's just a gift that we're
opening ourselves to, that what's already happened, if we can even
put it in the past, because there is no past, there's only this infinite
moment. The words become and I'm good at words and they
become more and more difficult [Laughs].
TRIP: Well I've got some words for you. I want to read something
you wrote and you write extremely well, Katie, by the way.
WIZARD: Yes, you do.
PHILIP: Yes, you do.
TRIP: You write with a precision and a confidence that is uniquely
your own. But you wrote, "Desire inherently contains its opposite
which is fear, so while we are creating our personal desires, we are
also creating poverty, greed, sexual obsession, power over others
in the herd and every form of lack. In other words, when we
desire, we are also saying that we lack." Does any desire fall
outside of this? For example, what about the desire for the
company of Truth? Because that's what motivates me, and maybe
the Wizard, I don't want to speak for him and Philip here to hang
with you. We enjoy the company of Truth.
WIZARD: Is it desire or synchronicity?
TRIP: I don't know. Have I stumped you yet, Katie, I'm going to
get you…
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