Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
TRIP: So you write, "The essence of enlightenment is
uninterrupted Self aware being". I like that definition. Millions
perhaps are now tasting enlightenment, but uninterrupted self
aware being is still quite rare, true?
KATIE DAVIS: No.
TRIP: No?
KATIE DAVIS: I mean right now, maybe it is a matter of
inattention, but if I were to ask you right now, are you aware of
being?
TRIP: Yes, I am.
KATIE DAVIS: Would you say that you are conscious?
TRIP: Yes.
KATIE DAVIS: Are you silently aware of that?
TRIP: Yes.
KATIE DAVIS: It's always here, there is nowhere to go. You are
who you are in every moment.
TRIP: Well I agree with you and I prefer the common man's
definition of enlightenment being that which is available and
present for everyone all the time. But, for example, then I'll read
something of the sort that I read in your book towards the end,
when you talk about the four kinds of surrender. And it began with
unconditional surrender, okay, that was the low level [Laughs],
the lowest level. And then it went on up from there.
WIZARD: It's choiceless surrender. [Laughter]
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