Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
A. RAMANA: So the first addiction is body mind addiction, it is
the meditation of a separate self-identity. When one awakens, one
realizes that in fact we are not actually human beings, we are
divine beings. No different than the master Jesus, or Buddha, or
Krishna. And we are living momentarily, temporarily, as human
beings, the highest expression of nature, of the animal world of
nature. The highest one being an animal, or being an animal is
being a human, the human animal, so to speak. And when we
awaken to the true nature of being, we recognize that we're divine,
that we are God dwelling as humans. God dwells in us as us, and
actually is us, we're just playing the role of the name and form that
we're identified with at any given time. And when we awaken to
the Self that we really are, we can recognize that this character role
that we are identified with is really the cause of our suffering,
because we're identified with the body and the mind incorrectly
taking them to be who and what we are. But in Truth we’re
spiritual beings, Christ if you will, Buddha if you will, that's who
and what we actually are. So the process is to awaken to who and
what we are, and abide in this awakened awareness of the Self, the
very Self, that in Truth is what we are. Maybe I've gone too far off
for you.
WIZARD: No, beautifully said. That just flowed right in.
TRIP: That was excellent. I've got one more question here; this is
my one hardball question. It's not really a hardball question, but I
want you to maybe look into the potentially deeper aspect of my
question, maybe beyond sort of the obvious surface answer, which
I think I've already got. And it's this, for those who have practiced
self inquiry, and the Wizard here says that everyone that realizes
the Truth of themselves must practice self inquiry.
WIZARD: Well, to get to know yourself, your intention is to know
yourself, otherwise… [Laughs]
TRIP: Exactly. So those who are awakened to this Truth that you
so eloquently just spoke, must practice self inquiry, and AHAM is
rightfully attentive to Self inquiry in the process, and guiding
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