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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages open up with everything I did. So that's what that encounter was about. TRIP: I'm about to walk away from a business, well not walking away… yes, I have to leave a business that I've been managing for five years. I manage a trailer park, and I've got a question for you about that, because I've been reflecting on this and I'm interested in your opinion. So for the entirety of my time that I was managing this trailer park, I refused to profile anybody, okay. Even though time and again one particular group did far more harm to me than any other, like 80% or 90% of the misbehaviors and costs that were heaped upon me there came from this one group, and I just never profiled, never profiled. And reading the stories about you, and the people that have showed up in your lives, or people that would show up and they were obviously down on their luck, or their teeth knocked out, or they had gang tattoos all over them. And you constantly just stayed with it, you refused to judge, you were open to the moment. I'm just wondering though, being like that, with this group and never profiling cost me a lot of aggravation, a lot of money. It's possible had I been more critical in my assessments of the people that I dealt with that I could have kept my business cash flow neutral, and maybe I could have hung on and earned additional money that would enable me to do more good in the world. I'm just curious, where do you draw the line between non-judgment and stupidity? I mean is it always worth the risk to be wide open to everyone all the time? JERRY WENNSTROM: Well, it's like I said earlier, I think you also have to be ruthless like the devil. Clearly you're a nice guy, I mean you're doing this radio show, you're somebody who cares, and you’re a loving person. I would say your challenge is healthy ruthlessness. TRIP: Thank you, I was hoping you would say that. JERRY WENNSTROM: The Bhagavad Gita says goodness is the final obstacle to God, that's your obstacle, you're not a bad person, and you have to learn healthy ruthlessness. And those guys, the 294
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages toothless guys with the tattoos would respect you if you held your own. It's like if you let them walk all over you, it doesn't mean to be a doormat, it also doesn't mean to be violent. I like the story Yogananda, there's a story about a snake and the snake keeps biting people, it was a cobra, and it's one of those Indian stories, and every time somebody would come near the snake it would bite him, and he was killing all these people. And one day a saint came walking through town and the snake bit him, and the saint just did his little saint thing, and he instantly was healed. And the cobra says, "Oh, I'm in trouble now, I just bit a saint". And so the cobra says, "Oh, I'm so sorry I bit you, and you're a saint, how do I repent?" And the saint said, "Don't bite anyone anymore, no more biting". So the saint comes back a year later and the snake is totally emaciated, and he's all beaten up. And the saint says, "Well, Mr. Snake, what happened to you?" And the snake says, "Well you told me not to bite, and this is what the people have done to me, they beat me, they kick me, and I don't bite them". And the saint said, "Well I didn't say you couldn't hiss". [Laughs] TRIP: You've been willing to be hungry, one day you were really hungry, you were standing in the rain at the end of your rope, a $20 bill floated by in the gutter. Of that experience you say, during this 15 year period that you just surrendered to life, you say "I was fed that day and every other day the Gods chose to feed me, and when they did not, I did not eat". Very few people in life willingly, especially in America, we’re like an obese country, willingly subject themselves to that. I mean, I've only been really hungry once, it was on a survival camping thing, and it was only one day. And it was in the rain, and it was cold, and I was paddling a canoe the entire day, so I went 24 hours without eating. I was really, really hungry at the end of that, but I was never hungry like you were, were I was like losing body weight, and really hungry. What are the benefits of that, what came of that for you? What did you learn from that? 295
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WIZARD: Be still. Conversations wit
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TRIP: Thank you. Conversations with
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WIZARD: Amen. Conversations with Av
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WIZARD: Yes. Conversations with Ava
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