Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
was funny because one of them was a mean spirited guy who was
very much in touch with his inner self, and then the other guy was
not in touch with his inner self, but was very gregarious and
whatever. So they represented the complementary psyche almost,
the two of them together.
JERRY WENNSTROM: Yes, a level of completion, I think that
was what I learned from them. And , Gilbert, the more gregarious
one, he would come on to me, he was a very loving open person,
and I always had to keep my boundaries because it was an
interesting relationship not being gay, but really loving these guys
and learning from them. And I wouldn't say Louis was mean,
Louis was like a God he could see through anything, and he was
completely ruthless in his stance. But he wasn't mean, he wouldn't
do mean things, but he showed no mercy.
And I needed to have that balance of, this creative, wild, fun
loving, gregarious, person and that ruthless God like watching
over everything. In some way I think we need that balance in
ourselves, and I certainly know I did, and I learned from both of
them. What I also learned is the price you pay for not being
complete, because I think where Louis sells short, Gilbert would
come up and fill in the hole, and where Gilbert fell short, Louis
would fill in the hole. But there was a part of them that had to
head for the barn when they were out of their territory. Gilbert
could not handle the inner life, where Louis wouldn’t handle the
external. I also saw that and I realize our parents' generation
could live that way, and they were of that generation. But I
realized, we can't do that now, none of us can, I think that's why
there are so many divorces. We can't be partial people anymore,
that's why I think it's a big requirement of our day is to be whole
within ourselves. And then we can do… again it gets back to
relationship; you can do relationship if you don't need that other
half. If you need it, that hole, you're going to fall into that hole, at
some place you're going to… your limitation is going to come up
and the very thing you love about the other person, you're going to
end up resenting because you need that in yourself, and you're
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