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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

What the point of it is in every moment is there is the potential for<br />

the miraculous to come through, and I think we can either live into<br />

that miracle or we can live in fear. And again I wouldn't have<br />

chosen that situation, and it scared me, I'm not saying I wasn't<br />

afraid, I was completely afraid. But what it was I refused to give<br />

into that fear, I trusted the God of that moment. Again there's<br />

either a God of everything, or there's a God of nothing. And I<br />

needed to find that out. It's everywhere in everything, male,<br />

female, whatever. I mean, anything could happen to anyone of<br />

course.<br />

TRIP: Indeed. you had a couple of friends, a gay couple, that<br />

were influential in your life, and I don't know why I mention them<br />

<strong>with</strong> so many things to ask you. But..<br />

JERRY WENNSTROM: <strong>The</strong>y're characters.<br />

TRIP: Gilbert and Louis. <strong>The</strong>se guys, they lived in 100 yard long<br />

converted chicken house.[Laughs] And they had room upon<br />

room, and like just when you thought you'd explored the whole<br />

place, they'd show you a whole other room that you didn't know<br />

about. And they had a peculiar dining table, can you share what<br />

that was?<br />

JERRY WENNSTROM: Well, it was out in their <strong>garde</strong>n, they had<br />

lavish <strong>garde</strong>ns and it was a pretty creative place. <strong>The</strong>y were<br />

something of mentors for me. And the table, it was a water table,<br />

it was like a huge round, and I don't know what you call it, like a<br />

huge round…<br />

TRIP: It was like a stock tank, right?<br />

JERRY WENNSTROM: With seats built in around it, and so when<br />

you sat at the table, the food would float on bowls on the water,<br />

and you’d pass it around to each other. [Laughing]<br />

TRIP: I love that. You sat at a stock tank and passed bowls<br />

around on the water. So these guys were very influential. And it<br />

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