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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

was a level of surrender, and she ended up in tears. I never said a<br />

word to her, and when she left, she stayed for a while, and I felt<br />

like the room just glowed <strong>with</strong> our co-mingling energies towards<br />

the end, it was just a really beautiful experience. And I can't<br />

explain it, I don't know what happened. But she hugged me, and<br />

she thanked me, and she left. I mean, there's an example of how<br />

silence can be the required language of the moment.<br />

At other times I had young street kids come in and I would just<br />

blast them, I mean the moment would call for a certain… I was just<br />

about being present <strong>with</strong> what was coming, and it was like no<br />

holds barred. But there was a period where I had to inhabit<br />

silence, because it was my big terror to not speak because most of<br />

us speak out of nervousness, if we feel nervous we start talking,<br />

and we talk about the weather. I mean what if we didn't do that,<br />

what if we just really listening to the moment, I think a whole<br />

other relationship <strong>with</strong> the world could come into play. I don’t<br />

need to be silent, for a year I hardly spoke; I don't need to do that<br />

now. It's like giving up painting again, you get to the place where<br />

it doesn't matter if you speak or not, but you have all the colors on<br />

your palate. If the moment calls for blue, you've got it. If it calls<br />

for red, you've got it. But I think most of us are pretty lopsided, we<br />

know how to talk, or we're afraid to talk, you have introverts,<br />

extroverts, and we're all specialized in what we do. But how many<br />

of us have the whole palate. And I think that's what we all need to<br />

learn, there's nothing special about that, it's a requirement of our<br />

totality, of our completion on the planet.<br />

TRIP: Yes. You say, and I don't want to catch you on semantics<br />

here, but I'm wondering if there's something more to it than<br />

semantics. You say "We risk far more than life when we attempt<br />

to create a life devoid of a personal relationship <strong>with</strong> our God".<br />

I'm just wondering, is God something we relate to, in terms of a<br />

relationship, or is it an assumption we make about who we are?<br />

JERRY WENNSTROM: Well, I find… and I don't know if it's the<br />

only game in town. I find I need to have God in my life, whatever<br />

you want to call that God, and I'm not talking religion, I'm talking<br />

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